01.24.05
Pick-up without the line.
Certain articles and movies out there provide great examples of how women work. Today I’m going to focus on an article called Pick-up Lines: How to Make Them Work For You and a scene from the movie Roger Dodger.
Pick-up without the line.
In this show you’ll hear an example of a great article about pick-up lines. You’ll also hear a scene from Roger Dodger focusing on why what to say is a waste of time (initially). Finally you’ll learn that confidence and leading the way are important when interacting with women.
Show Download:
- Pick-up without the line. (mp3) - Size: 3.64mb - Time: 15m 53s
External Links:
- Pick-up Lines: How to Make Them Work For You
J-Dog said,
January 25, 2005 at 4:16 am
Thanks ZD for this article. I have Roger Dodger on DVD, and there is definitely value in some parts of the film. I like how you have focused on pick-up lines and show how the usefulness of the traditional pick-up line is a fallacy. Rather, coming from a state of confidence, and using a hook will yield much more interest from a woman.
I think that many guys don’t get past the initial line or the open. Even if the woman talks to them a little bit after an opening “line” it’s often just out of politeness. She has already decided that she does not really want to talk to you.
Once you develop the skills to open a woman up to conversation it is interesting how guys are then faced with new obstacles. Passing female testing for instance requires a guy to be confident and comfortable with himself. Women want confident and masculine men, who can banter with them and are not phased by these little tests. The way in which a man responds to a woman’s tests conveys many personality and character traits to her. It’s a screening process in a sense. Please don’t confuse confidence with being overly cock or bold, and masculine is more about how a man handles himself in situations rather than how big his muscles are, or how aggressive he can be.
The clip here really focuses in on these points, which I think most guys would miss without your breakdown.
Of course there are many ways to open, but I think that using hooks and having confidence apply to them all. For the more advanced it can also be fun to use a really lame pick-up line as a joke, which you also hint at.
J-Dog.
Wondering said,
January 27, 2005 at 3:45 pm
I think you are targeting normal girls, but what about the ones who can fire right back at you. You throw out what you think is a sarcastic witty comment and she throws something right backat you. What if you run out of all your “WOW” material? Basically, how do you wow the “wow girl?”
J-Dog said,
January 28, 2005 at 1:27 am
Several things here. Firstly, ZD is saying that if you only stock up on “wow” material then you can and most probably will run out of good things to say. You should come from a certain attitude, mindset, and confidence. Combine this with an understanding of witty banter and you can go for hours (note bantering for too long will most probably lose you attraction.)
Secondly, if a woman is being sarcastic back this is almost always what you actually want. It is a flirtation mechanism. I want to trigger a girl to be sarcastic.. I want her to play hit me. There should be a fiesty tension.
If a woman is super polite and treats me like her little brother then I know that she has no sexual interest in me whatsoever. In fact she considers me so unsexual that I am not even the slightest concern. If she comes back with a complete bitch response that’s bad also. But throwing back her wit is a sign of interest and female testing. When you can spar back and forth with her it will really get her interest and start triggering attraction mechanisms.
At some point though, usually sooner than you would realize it is best to transition into more comfort building communication. She is interested in you. She perceives you as being a confident man with many attractive qualities.. but are you just banter or is there something real?
Wowing the girl is far more than just being cock & funny on the opener, and if it could be captured in one short article then there would be no need for books, courses and workshops on the subject.
J-Dog
www.ArizonaPUA.com